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I'm not aware of any benefit of tobacco consumption which makes it a false comparison to the deception XOM has been perpetrating. Is it wrong for XOM to keep relevant information from the public? Sure. And, it's also wrong to not acknowledge the benefit fossil fuels have on allowing 8 billion people to live on the planet using cheap energy. There seems to be no risk / benefit analysis in the debate about climate change which leads to companies hiding the truth. Companies that manufacture wind, solar, lithium and other alternative energy products are likely producing emails / memos today trying to justify the known negative environmental impacts of their products - DC can cover these deceptions in future posts. "Settled Science" is at the center of this and we would all benefit from a return to allowing open and honest debate about real science, the kind that is always changing and always questioning our known realities. And since there are negative impacts from virtually all products, a real debate about risk / benefit of any new product would be a great start.

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Climate science denial! Oh, the horror! Secretly funded, no less! How dare they?

I’m glad to know that some oil company, somewhere, funded some of the counter-narrative. These companies have been MIA in such studies, for the most part. As a result, I (and others like me) have spent much of my own meager funds trying to help scientists who dared question the prevailing narrative of “climate change.”

PS I’m horrified that I had subscribed to THIS substack — how did I not know what this writer was all about? Yikes! Problem fixed. I’m OUT.

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Sorry but it seems a unilateral article without any critical approach to climate change supposed science and related cost and benefit analysis. You can start from measuring stations that don't comply with measuring standards as per NOAA, underestimated effect of urbanization, similar GHG concentration in northern and southern hemispheres despite the northern hemisphere emits 90% of GHG, lack of consideration for El Nino impacts, etc.....and by the way when temperatures are measured in alternative ways you get a different picture. Then you look at forecasts and it is all based on rotten models, ideologically driven and obviously with a miserable track record. Bottom line: yes XOM might have tripped on bad communication strategy but you should also report the lies coming from the other side. thank you! p.s. you can start with the environmental damages off the north east coasts caused by wind farms.

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“It is madness to expect bad men to do no wrong: that is asking for the impossible. But it is cruel tyranny to allow them such behavior to others while demanding that they do no wrong to you.” - Marcus Aurelius

Why do we expect so much from these corporations?

Why don’t we demand more of our politicians?

Or, more pointedly, why don’t we demand more of ourselves?

We compromise our own virtue by not creating boundaries for the ignorant and incompetent. I do not wish to devalue their humanity, but I do wish to eliminate their access to power and authority.

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Thanks Paul. I’ve come to realize that big moneyed corporations have pr firms to pump out the propaganda that benefits them. It is pervasive. How much of our thinking is moulded around propaganda? Any opposing views get managed by these p.r firms effectively. Very troublesome. We’re such pawns. Corporations have way too much power over governments. As I’ve mentioned before, I am vaccine injured. How did this get so political and polarized? I’m not sure if you’ve seen Dr. Phillip Buckhaults in a South Carolina senate hearing he posted to YouTube. To me, this is explosive but realize big pharma will do anything and everything to discredit this esteemed molecular biologist and cancer geneticist. His findings should be taken seriously and cease vaccinating babies and children.

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A few weeks ago, I heard an interview with senator Amy Klobocuchar where she was talking about getting big pharma out of politics. She said each congressman has 3 pharmaceutical lobbyists. Bernie Sanders has been very vocal about this problem. Now the expose of senator Bob Melendez. Here in Ontario Premier Doug Ford’s green belt scandal to open up 7,400 acres of protected land. $$$$

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I think it’s deplorable. To me the only motivation for getting into politics is to get rich. It’s frightening.

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So a company self-flagellates after sensitive documents are exposed. That is a standard PR tactic and means nothing about which side is right or wrong in the scientific debate.

FWIW, I'm with Richard Lindzen who produced science whose significance I can appreciate. He figured out why certain winds at the equator change direction every couple of years which was unknown previously. None of the pro climate change scientists seem to have done anything except get grants approved.

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How is this different than what happened/is happening with pharmaceutical companies and their paid scientists? Where are those articles?

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